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Re-Post: The Book of Revelation (The Last Book of the Bible).

April 6, 2014


I start by using the wikipedia, simply because it covers somewhat the whole historical preview, in the Church and History on the Book of Revelation. And of course I don’t have the time and energy to cover this as I might like to, either biblically, historically and scholastically.  Also, we can note after reading this, that sadly in the history and theology of the Eastern Orthodox, they have had a tendency of rejecting the Book, from both their own history and theology!  And here I must say I am personally disappointed, but that is nothing new for me with the general life and reality of the EO!  They simply miss so much with their traditions and history, rather than the authority and essence of the Holy Scripture, itself, first and foremost.  And my criticism comes with general respect and love for the EO over all, especially on the doctrine and teaching of the great Trinity of God!

It is nothing new, that I have come to the place of the so-called Futuristic position on the Book of Revelation, and this since 1993, and after my time in Gulf War 1, and living and teaching in Israel (latter 90’s). We all come from some place and history, personally!  And sometimes we must make re-examination some this of course.

In the end, it must be the Biblical Text itself that must lead, guide and really dominate our heart, minds and thinking!  For again, Jesus Christ is the “Logos” and the “Rhema”!

Btw, as I have said also, the Reformation surely did tend to follow the Roman Catholic Church on Eschatology, which was not all bad. See Heinrich Quistorp’s book on ‘Calvin’s Doctrine of the Last Things’, translated into English (1955, Lutterworth Press, and too the James Clarke & Co. Note, T.F. Torrance wrote the English Foreword, for the book). But the book, as Calvin, surely has both historical and hermeneutical weakness, in my opinion. Also btw, I believe the book, is reprinted by WIPF and Stock?

Finally, I write and connect back to this subject and Book of Revelation, especially in our day and time (as I believe), of modernity and postmodernity, it is no longer the day and time of the great period of the Judeo-Christian, sadly. But, I pull back here, for here was our best Western reality!  And if we do not return here, we will simply NOT get back to the place of the biblical and theological reality of the depth and authority of the Holy Scripture itself!  And here this surely includes the place of “Predictive Bible Prophecy”!

  1. I tend myself, to see the Book of Revelation, as written between 68 and the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. See John A.T. Robinson’s book: Redating the NT, and the chapter on The Book of Revelation.

    • And as I have said before, I like and recommend the Revised NICNT on the Book of Revelation, by Robert Mounce. But there are no perfect commentaries here! I even recommend reading EW Bullinger’s book here: The Apocalypse, 3rd Ed. 1935 (now in paperback btw).

      And simply too, William (W.M.) Ramsay’s great classic: The Letters to the Seven Churches of Asia.

  2. Excellent, Fr. Robert. Simply excellent – well said.

    • Thanks Todd! I took some real heat over the issue of Daniel, i.e. the dating, and taking the most conservative Jewish text of the Masoretic Text. And all three Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation all combine in Predictive Bible Prophecy! And Daniel is so central! I really see the Septuagint Text in Daniel, with the longer ending etc., as simply Apocrypha/apocryphal!

      • Fr. Robert, I am ignorant of the textual differences between the Book of Daniel’s Masoretic and Septuagint text. Specifically in terms of your conclusion that the Septuagint version is apocryphal and not necessarily inspired, how would you explain the difference between the two these two versions? Again, I am ignorant on their differences.

        * Todd: Surely the early apostolic church read and used the Septuagint (LXX), and the Jews themselves used the LXX also, but I think it is obvious that the Text that the conservative Jews used and relied on was the Masoretic Text! Even in the Dead Sea Scrolls, that were found, they speak only the 12 chapters of Daniel, alone, and nothing of the added apocryphal editions of Daniel! (The Prayer of Azariah and The Song of the Three Jews ; Susanna ; and Bel And The Dragon).

        PS..Of course we can read the Apocrypha, and for its historical purposes, but it is simply NOT the Canon of Scripture of God’s Revelation, as THE Word of God! No doubt Paul read the Apocrypha, and they perhaps have made ideas in his head, heart and mind (especially the two Wisdom Books), but he never quotes directly from them! So indeed to some degree, we have the 400 silent years between the Old and New Testament!

        Btw, if you can find or see a copy of: The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English, by Sir Lancelot C.L. Brenton, I think Hendrickson reprints it still? Not sure if ya can find it on-line? Of course the Septuagint, meaning “seventy”, and is referred by the roman numerals LXX, and is the Greek translation of the Old Testament. This was the Bible of the Apostolic Church per se, but note how Paul oftentimes does his own Free quote of the Hebrew Text, as well as quoting the LXX in his Letters. But the conservative Jews, it was the Masoretic Text foremost!

      • Okay, very good Fr. Robert. Thank you very much for the succinct breakdown in manuscript differences. I love these type of posts you do, where you authoritatively focus on a topic and break it down for your readers. Thanks again.

        *Thanks Todd, the problem for me is always being able to give quality time, I blog almost everyday, but of course most of it rather quick. But the subject of the Book of Daniel does deserve depth, and of course now with all the liberal suppositions and surmising!

  3. William permalink

    Very interesting Fr. Robert! Thanks for your posts.

  4. Btw, this is an interesting read!

    In the end, the Book of Revelation is simply but profoundly: “Epistolary,” Apocalyptic,” and “Prophetic”! (Rev. 1: 1-3) If we loose any of these three, especially the last two, we loose the full meaning of the Book!

    • Btw, surely Rev. 1: 1-3 is simply “key”, with verse 1: 19 to the overall understanding and divisions of this so-called Book! But this Book is quite important and profound, and the essence of verse three: “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.”

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